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	<title>Comments on: Network Security Podcast, Episode 127:  DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff</title>
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		<title>By: Network Security Blog &#187; Saturday morning reading for 06/20/09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Network Security Blog &#187; Saturday morning reading for 06/20/09</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] now has a blog.&#160; Now if Secretary Napolitano would just stop by the Bay Area for a short chat like her predicessor did, I&#8217;d be very happy.&#160; Of course, it may be that asking lighting to strike twice is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now has a blog.&nbsp; Now if Secretary Napolitano would just stop by the Bay Area for a short chat like her predicessor did, I&#8217;d be very happy.&nbsp; Of course, it may be that asking lighting to strike twice is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are the unedited tweets for this afternoon&#039;s meeting with DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff

mckeay   Sitting at Stanford, waiting to talk to Michael Chertoff. Full Secret Service compliment, dog, sheriff, etc

mediaphyter   @mckeay I like how the dog was listed before the sheriff. Good luck. ;-)

Beaker   @mckeay Which questions have you apportioned for the dog vs. Chertoff?

mckeay   time for the security stuff
mckeay  Made it through the sniff test. Waiting to go in and begin the discussions. Only about 5 or 6 of us to be in the roundtable

rockyd   @mckeay if dogs outnumber bloggers run!

mckeay   Sitting around waiting for Secretary Chertoff to show up. Only a few of us who&#039;ve shown up
mckeay   first question is from Hoff, Why are you doing this?
mckeay   Because he was here for other issues, doing work down in southern california
mckeay  Bloggers offer a different viewpoint of the security issues, more in depth than reporters sometimes, not issue of the day 
mckeay  Discussing taking shoes off through the airport checkpoints. Point is, it&#039;s an attack that&#039;s already been tried. But is it a real risk?

stiennon   @mckeay Yeah the shoe bomber FAILED. No terrorist will be stupid enough to try something that does not work.

mckeay  Why not successful attacks here: We&#039;re lucky. Terrrorists don&#039;t hate us. We&#039;ve made it hard to attack the US. He goes for #3
mckeay   Andrew&#039;s asking about Cyberterror: what are we doing for the US to reduce cyberterror?

stiennon   @mckeay Ask him about the White House hacks. Get him to say there was no important information in White House emails. Hah!

mckeay  Reduce the number of internet access points, background checks on people, engage with the private sector more. Help them elevate security
mckeay   Make the capabilities available to private sector, don&#039;t force the government on them
mckeay   Measuring the effectiveness: count the attacks, should see a decrease in the future
mckeay   Asking about White house email
mckeay   The national cybersecurity strategy signed off by the president, but needs to be continued by the next Prez
mckeay   The DHS is now getting the budget to help the private sector to secure their networks.
mckeay   The DOD is working with DHS to find ways to help the civilian world secure the Internet, a partnership.

stiennon   @mckeay HTH are they going to spend $30 Billion on National Cyber Security Strategy?

cryptorobert   @mckeay reduce the number of internet access points? What does that mean, exactly?

mckeay   &quot;Government can&#039;t try to control the world, we have to work collaberatively&quot;
mckeay  Secretary Chertoff had read a number of the comments on twitter and the blog and knew some of the questions I&#039;d ask

gattaca   @mckeay biting tongue re: DOD/DHS partnership. Oooh blood

stiennon   @mckeay Dang, we should have discussed your anti-american tendencies. You would have been barred from the meeting No wait that is Scoble.

mckeay   Carrots are better than sticks, it&#039;s better for the DHS to encourage cooperation rather than force it.
mckeay   The size of US-CERT is doubling, the initial collaboration will be happening with the biggest players first
mckeay  Why has the DHS had problems protecting their own systems? Chronicle reporter, the only non-blogger (only 4 of us total)

catalyst   @mckeay what is DHS willingness to learn from others? from private sector? Clearly they don&#039;t have it perfect, either... two way means what?

mckeay Everyone has to be on the same set of requirements, until recently the DHS didn&#039;t have the authority to push the requirements

catalyst   @mckeay you&#039;re doing a great job of keeping us connected. Thanks!!

mckeay  A number of different technical solutions are being offered, but none of them are perfect, might deal with the issue of lost laptops
mckeay   George Ou is asking some good questions about biometrics and two factor authentication 
mckeay  why have we been at threat level orange forever? It gives them a different set of guidelines they can use, more resources than yellow
mckeay  Have we caught a terrorists in the airports? Dancing around the subject, but stating we have caught people who should not be on the planes
mckeay   How about the no-fly list? 2500 world wide, 20,000 flagged for extra review. Only 10% are US citizens
mckeay   I&#039;m recording this, but I don&#039;t know what the sound quality will be like. 
mckeay  The airlines can collect additional information from flyers to limit the number of false positives. Airlines aren&#039;t any more sure of th ...
mckeay   What are you doing after January? Decompress, take a vacation
mckeay   If you have a better way to do airport security, bring it up, let the DHS know
mckeay   That was good. Only 4 of us, direct conversation with Secretary Chertoff, great stuff.
mckeay  Sorry I didn&#039;t get to ask more of the questions asked during the conversation, but I got to ask a lot more than I&#039;d expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the unedited tweets for this afternoon&#8217;s meeting with DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff</p>
<p>mckeay   Sitting at Stanford, waiting to talk to Michael Chertoff. Full Secret Service compliment, dog, sheriff, etc</p>
<p>mediaphyter   @mckeay I like how the dog was listed before the sheriff. Good luck. <img src='http://mckeay.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Beaker   @mckeay Which questions have you apportioned for the dog vs. Chertoff?</p>
<p>mckeay   time for the security stuff<br />
mckeay  Made it through the sniff test. Waiting to go in and begin the discussions. Only about 5 or 6 of us to be in the roundtable</p>
<p>rockyd   @mckeay if dogs outnumber bloggers run!</p>
<p>mckeay   Sitting around waiting for Secretary Chertoff to show up. Only a few of us who&#8217;ve shown up<br />
mckeay   first question is from Hoff, Why are you doing this?<br />
mckeay   Because he was here for other issues, doing work down in southern california<br />
mckeay  Bloggers offer a different viewpoint of the security issues, more in depth than reporters sometimes, not issue of the day<br />
mckeay  Discussing taking shoes off through the airport checkpoints. Point is, it&#8217;s an attack that&#8217;s already been tried. But is it a real risk?</p>
<p>stiennon   @mckeay Yeah the shoe bomber FAILED. No terrorist will be stupid enough to try something that does not work.</p>
<p>mckeay  Why not successful attacks here: We&#8217;re lucky. Terrrorists don&#8217;t hate us. We&#8217;ve made it hard to attack the US. He goes for #3<br />
mckeay   Andrew&#8217;s asking about Cyberterror: what are we doing for the US to reduce cyberterror?</p>
<p>stiennon   @mckeay Ask him about the White House hacks. Get him to say there was no important information in White House emails. Hah!</p>
<p>mckeay  Reduce the number of internet access points, background checks on people, engage with the private sector more. Help them elevate security<br />
mckeay   Make the capabilities available to private sector, don&#8217;t force the government on them<br />
mckeay   Measuring the effectiveness: count the attacks, should see a decrease in the future<br />
mckeay   Asking about White house email<br />
mckeay   The national cybersecurity strategy signed off by the president, but needs to be continued by the next Prez<br />
mckeay   The DHS is now getting the budget to help the private sector to secure their networks.<br />
mckeay   The DOD is working with DHS to find ways to help the civilian world secure the Internet, a partnership.</p>
<p>stiennon   @mckeay HTH are they going to spend $30 Billion on National Cyber Security Strategy?</p>
<p>cryptorobert   @mckeay reduce the number of internet access points? What does that mean, exactly?</p>
<p>mckeay   &#8220;Government can&#8217;t try to control the world, we have to work collaberatively&#8221;<br />
mckeay  Secretary Chertoff had read a number of the comments on twitter and the blog and knew some of the questions I&#8217;d ask</p>
<p>gattaca   @mckeay biting tongue re: DOD/DHS partnership. Oooh blood</p>
<p>stiennon   @mckeay Dang, we should have discussed your anti-american tendencies. You would have been barred from the meeting No wait that is Scoble.</p>
<p>mckeay   Carrots are better than sticks, it&#8217;s better for the DHS to encourage cooperation rather than force it.<br />
mckeay   The size of US-CERT is doubling, the initial collaboration will be happening with the biggest players first<br />
mckeay  Why has the DHS had problems protecting their own systems? Chronicle reporter, the only non-blogger (only 4 of us total)</p>
<p>catalyst   @mckeay what is DHS willingness to learn from others? from private sector? Clearly they don&#8217;t have it perfect, either&#8230; two way means what?</p>
<p>mckeay Everyone has to be on the same set of requirements, until recently the DHS didn&#8217;t have the authority to push the requirements</p>
<p>catalyst   @mckeay you&#8217;re doing a great job of keeping us connected. Thanks!!</p>
<p>mckeay  A number of different technical solutions are being offered, but none of them are perfect, might deal with the issue of lost laptops<br />
mckeay   George Ou is asking some good questions about biometrics and two factor authentication<br />
mckeay  why have we been at threat level orange forever? It gives them a different set of guidelines they can use, more resources than yellow<br />
mckeay  Have we caught a terrorists in the airports? Dancing around the subject, but stating we have caught people who should not be on the planes<br />
mckeay   How about the no-fly list? 2500 world wide, 20,000 flagged for extra review. Only 10% are US citizens<br />
mckeay   I&#8217;m recording this, but I don&#8217;t know what the sound quality will be like.<br />
mckeay  The airlines can collect additional information from flyers to limit the number of false positives. Airlines aren&#8217;t any more sure of th &#8230;<br />
mckeay   What are you doing after January? Decompress, take a vacation<br />
mckeay   If you have a better way to do airport security, bring it up, let the DHS know<br />
mckeay   That was good. Only 4 of us, direct conversation with Secretary Chertoff, great stuff.<br />
mckeay  Sorry I didn&#8217;t get to ask more of the questions asked during the conversation, but I got to ask a lot more than I&#8217;d expected.</p>
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