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	<title>Comments on: Blocking YouTube with a WRT54G</title>
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		<title>By: gregor@switch</title>
		<link>http://www.mckeay.net/2008/11/26/blocking-youtube-with-a-wrt54g/comment-page-1/#comment-5915</link>
		<dc:creator>gregor@switch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does my mac adresse change if I upgrade my computer with some other hardware? For example change the graphic card?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does my mac adresse change if I upgrade my computer with some other hardware? For example change the graphic card?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.mckeay.net/2008/11/26/blocking-youtube-with-a-wrt54g/comment-page-1/#comment-5782</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am unable to get my WRT54G to block websites at all, at least world of warcraft. I tried Martin&#039;s approach - dumbing down the URL (worldofwarcraft.com). No luck. I put the http:\\www back in - no luck. Following a suggestion I tried an asterisk: *.worldofwarcraft.com. No luck. I&#039;ve followed numerous &quot;how to&quot; instructions shown on many many websites. I&#039;ve upgraded the firmware. I&#039;ve entered MAC addresses. I&#039;ve been through LinkSys&#039;s knowledge base. I&#039;ve spent hours. No luck.

Yes, I put it in the hosts file and yes that works, but it&#039;s just as easy for my bright 16 year old to remove entries from the hosts file as it is for me to put them there. I want to do this in the router because in my judgement that is where it belongs. But nothing works. The router simply does not block the website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am unable to get my WRT54G to block websites at all, at least world of warcraft. I tried Martin&#8217;s approach &#8211; dumbing down the URL (worldofwarcraft.com). No luck. I put the http:\\www back in &#8211; no luck. Following a suggestion I tried an asterisk: *.worldofwarcraft.com. No luck. I&#8217;ve followed numerous &#8220;how to&#8221; instructions shown on many many websites. I&#8217;ve upgraded the firmware. I&#8217;ve entered MAC addresses. I&#8217;ve been through LinkSys&#8217;s knowledge base. I&#8217;ve spent hours. No luck.</p>
<p>Yes, I put it in the hosts file and yes that works, but it&#8217;s just as easy for my bright 16 year old to remove entries from the hosts file as it is for me to put them there. I want to do this in the router because in my judgement that is where it belongs. But nothing works. The router simply does not block the website.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.mckeay.net/2008/11/26/blocking-youtube-with-a-wrt54g/comment-page-1/#comment-3920</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan,

I&#039;ve thought about installing DD-WRT on my WRT54G&#039;s, but I have v8&#039;s, which have the lowest memory of the whole series and would only allow a very stripped down version of the software.  I&#039;ve got Paul and Larry&#039;s book, Linksys WRT54G Ultimate Hacking, but it&#039;s not worth the amount of effort I&#039;d have to put into it for what I&#039;d gain.  And right now, I just don&#039;t have the time to spare to perform an install and test; I can&#039;t afford the potential down time.   

I am one or two clicks away from purchasing an Asus WL500G, which I&#039;ve been told takes many of the extended packages that the WRT54G takes.  Just haven&#039;t hit the &#039;purchase&#039; button with all the money flowing out of my account in anticipation of Christmas.

Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought about installing DD-WRT on my WRT54G&#8217;s, but I have v8&#8242;s, which have the lowest memory of the whole series and would only allow a very stripped down version of the software.  I&#8217;ve got Paul and Larry&#8217;s book, Linksys WRT54G Ultimate Hacking, but it&#8217;s not worth the amount of effort I&#8217;d have to put into it for what I&#8217;d gain.  And right now, I just don&#8217;t have the time to spare to perform an install and test; I can&#8217;t afford the potential down time.   </p>
<p>I am one or two clicks away from purchasing an Asus WL500G, which I&#8217;ve been told takes many of the extended packages that the WRT54G takes.  Just haven&#8217;t hit the &#8216;purchase&#8217; button with all the money flowing out of my account in anticipation of Christmas.</p>
<p>Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.mckeay.net/2008/11/26/blocking-youtube-with-a-wrt54g/comment-page-1/#comment-3916</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Martin,

The WRT54G is one of a few handfuls or routers that can be flashed with custom software. There is a project going on called DD-WRT that turns a $30 router into a $300 router.

I would try checking it out because it&#039;s free.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Martin,</p>
<p>The WRT54G is one of a few handfuls or routers that can be flashed with custom software. There is a project going on called DD-WRT that turns a $30 router into a $300 router.</p>
<p>I would try checking it out because it&#8217;s free.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.mckeay.net/2008/11/26/blocking-youtube-with-a-wrt54g/comment-page-1/#comment-3915</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude,

Mostly because my kids have physical access to their computer.  I haven&#039;t taught them what a host file is yet, but I want to be able to block them on something they don&#039;t have any controls over.  They might be able to log into the router some day, but for now they don&#039;t even know which set of blinky lights it is.  

Besides, it IS the Network Security Blog, so I put the controls on the network equipment, not the host system.

Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude,</p>
<p>Mostly because my kids have physical access to their computer.  I haven&#8217;t taught them what a host file is yet, but I want to be able to block them on something they don&#8217;t have any controls over.  They might be able to log into the router some day, but for now they don&#8217;t even know which set of blinky lights it is.  </p>
<p>Besides, it IS the Network Security Blog, so I put the controls on the network equipment, not the host system.</p>
<p>Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.mckeay.net/2008/11/26/blocking-youtube-with-a-wrt54g/comment-page-1/#comment-3913</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just curious why you didn&#039;t just edit the &quot;HOSTS&quot; file?

This is a &quot;Network Security Blog&quot; right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just curious why you didn&#8217;t just edit the &#8220;HOSTS&#8221; file?</p>
<p>This is a &#8220;Network Security Blog&#8221; right?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin,

Dont forgot http://video.google.com sorry video.google.com (they own youtube).

(;

Love the podcast

Tim Mugherini</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin,</p>
<p>Dont forgot <a href="http://video.google.com" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com</a> sorry video.google.com (they own youtube).</p>
<p>(;</p>
<p>Love the podcast</p>
<p>Tim Mugherini</p>
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		<title>By: alan shimel</title>
		<link>http://www.mckeay.net/2008/11/26/blocking-youtube-with-a-wrt54g/comment-page-1/#comment-3876</link>
		<dc:creator>alan shimel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin - We had a similar experience a few months back at our house (our kids being the same age, I guess that means that this is normal behavior for kids this age).  Our boys were looking at videos of &quot;Emos&quot; (I didn&#039;t know what that was, but it is something like Goths, dressed in black and stuff).  I overheard my youngest son talking about someone locking themselves in a refrigerator and dying and other people laughing about it. That was enough for me.  I did not want to completely take out You Tube from the house though, as I and Bonnie occasionally view it.  I laid out the money for Net Nanny and have started enforcing user accounts and passwords on the home machines. I have found it a great program to take out all kinds of sites that the kids shouldn&#039;t be watching.  Today it is You Tube, tomorrow it is something else.  I am not going to lose this security war by being reactive, I am being pro-active and denying whole classes of media.  
Also if I want to allow a particular site I can always override with passwords.

Hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin &#8211; We had a similar experience a few months back at our house (our kids being the same age, I guess that means that this is normal behavior for kids this age).  Our boys were looking at videos of &#8220;Emos&#8221; (I didn&#8217;t know what that was, but it is something like Goths, dressed in black and stuff).  I overheard my youngest son talking about someone locking themselves in a refrigerator and dying and other people laughing about it. That was enough for me.  I did not want to completely take out You Tube from the house though, as I and Bonnie occasionally view it.  I laid out the money for Net Nanny and have started enforcing user accounts and passwords on the home machines. I have found it a great program to take out all kinds of sites that the kids shouldn&#8217;t be watching.  Today it is You Tube, tomorrow it is something else.  I am not going to lose this security war by being reactive, I am being pro-active and denying whole classes of media.<br />
Also if I want to allow a particular site I can always override with passwords.</p>
<p>Hope that helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Wim Remes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wim Remes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, you wanted to block it completely :)

For those people who want to block it but don&#039;t have that option in their internet firewall/router, there&#039;s three other resorts :

point www.youtube.com to 127.0.0.1 in the hosts file in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc
*this is an easy way out, but if $spawn is knowledgeable enough and using an admin level account, you might be out of luck.

use OpenDNS as your DNS provider instead of your ISP&#039;s DNS servers. OpenDNS provides a FREE parental control filter (category based) AND allows you to block specific pages, as Martin explained in his post.
*this is &#039;my way&#039; as anybody who wants to tinker with the settings needs an account to do so.  If you&#039;re really paranoid. Block port 53 TCP/UDP outgoing on your internet router/firewall so you&#039;re prodigy son can&#039;t use other DNS servers.

use Windows Parental control.  From what I heard it can block youtube content based on categorization so $spawn can still use youtube but not the &#039;dirty&#039; content.
*I haven&#039;t tried this and this solution relies on the third party properly categorizing their content.  I don&#039;t think this is a good solution for this purpose, but Parental Control killes more than one bird being the stone it is.

Cheers,

W</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you wanted to block it completely <img src='http://mckeay.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For those people who want to block it but don&#8217;t have that option in their internet firewall/router, there&#8217;s three other resorts :</p>
<p>point <a href="http://www.youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com</a> to 127.0.0.1 in the hosts file in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc<br />
*this is an easy way out, but if $spawn is knowledgeable enough and using an admin level account, you might be out of luck.</p>
<p>use OpenDNS as your DNS provider instead of your ISP&#8217;s DNS servers. OpenDNS provides a FREE parental control filter (category based) AND allows you to block specific pages, as Martin explained in his post.<br />
*this is &#8216;my way&#8217; as anybody who wants to tinker with the settings needs an account to do so.  If you&#8217;re really paranoid. Block port 53 TCP/UDP outgoing on your internet router/firewall so you&#8217;re prodigy son can&#8217;t use other DNS servers.</p>
<p>use Windows Parental control.  From what I heard it can block youtube content based on categorization so $spawn can still use youtube but not the &#8216;dirty&#8217; content.<br />
*I haven&#8217;t tried this and this solution relies on the third party properly categorizing their content.  I don&#8217;t think this is a good solution for this purpose, but Parental Control killes more than one bird being the stone it is.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>W</p>
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