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	<title>Comments on: You lick it, you keep it</title>
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	<description>The views of one man on security, privacy and anything else that catches his attention</description>
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		<title>By: Du0d3c1m</title>
		<link>http://www.mckeay.net/2009/07/11/you-lick-it-you-keep-it/comment-page-1/#comment-5120</link>
		<dc:creator>Du0d3c1m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a recent victim of theft. I would hope you would make an effort to return them to the original owner.  I guess you should have picked them up before they were licked...

This brings up an interesting question.  How do you secure the data on your removable hard drive, while at the same time making it portable and identifiable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a recent victim of theft. I would hope you would make an effort to return them to the original owner.  I guess you should have picked them up before they were licked&#8230;</p>
<p>This brings up an interesting question.  How do you secure the data on your removable hard drive, while at the same time making it portable and identifiable?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.mckeay.net/2009/07/11/you-lick-it-you-keep-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4879</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you never know what Google Alerts will bring you to. Hi guys. I don&#039;t drop in here often enough, even if the feed&#039;s in my reader. (Thanks Walt, for the plug!)

I monitor &quot;honeystickproject&quot; in Google Alerts and saw this one pop up. 

My vote is with db_nz, above, and I would have left it. But it wouldn&#039;t bother me if any of you with the technology and guts - won&#039;t say anything about the intelligence - were to pick the thing up. Let the bomb squad - or more appropriately, the guys in the beekeeper suits - pick it up and do what they need to. I&#039;ll wait to see what their verdict is.

Yes, the chances of any of the drives having malware are certainly low, given the situation, and it hardly looks like a targeted attack. But who knows what they might have been infected with, besides saliva. 

Best story I&#039;ve heard in a long time, though. Just the image in my mind as he went from hard drive to parking meter brought tears to my eyes.

Will tweet about it, might do a blog article, too.

Thanks,

Scott Wright
http://www.honeystickproject.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you never know what Google Alerts will bring you to. Hi guys. I don&#8217;t drop in here often enough, even if the feed&#8217;s in my reader. (Thanks Walt, for the plug!)</p>
<p>I monitor &#8220;honeystickproject&#8221; in Google Alerts and saw this one pop up. </p>
<p>My vote is with db_nz, above, and I would have left it. But it wouldn&#8217;t bother me if any of you with the technology and guts &#8211; won&#8217;t say anything about the intelligence &#8211; were to pick the thing up. Let the bomb squad &#8211; or more appropriately, the guys in the beekeeper suits &#8211; pick it up and do what they need to. I&#8217;ll wait to see what their verdict is.</p>
<p>Yes, the chances of any of the drives having malware are certainly low, given the situation, and it hardly looks like a targeted attack. But who knows what they might have been infected with, besides saliva. </p>
<p>Best story I&#8217;ve heard in a long time, though. Just the image in my mind as he went from hard drive to parking meter brought tears to my eyes.</p>
<p>Will tweet about it, might do a blog article, too.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Scott Wright<br />
<a href="http://www.honeystickproject.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.honeystickproject.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://www.mckeay.net/2009/07/11/you-lick-it-you-keep-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4876</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious telling of hobos saliva meets technology. Personally I&#039;d have left them there. Minus the hobo spit I may have taken them and loaded up a Backtrack CD and just looked at the data to see if there is any identifying information that would allow me to return them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious telling of hobos saliva meets technology. Personally I&#8217;d have left them there. Minus the hobo spit I may have taken them and loaded up a Backtrack CD and just looked at the data to see if there is any identifying information that would allow me to return them.</p>
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		<title>By: Fizzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand why you contacted &quot;the one business nearby&quot;, but the likelihood of them actually belonging to someone there is low, especially in a city like SF. Almost all of the replies here are in favor of taking the drives and doing SOMETHING with them, so I&#039;m wondering why you didn&#039;t the first time you had a chance. Or even on your second or third pass as this story definitely shows that this abandoned bag had your attention. At the least, you could have grabbed a photo of them with your cell and if you really wanted the drives without having to touch them, just grab the bag or get another bag to put this one in and deal with the hygiene aspect later.

I&#039;m with Garry though, I wouldn&#039;t have done anything. In fact, I probably never would have looked in the bag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand why you contacted &#8220;the one business nearby&#8221;, but the likelihood of them actually belonging to someone there is low, especially in a city like SF. Almost all of the replies here are in favor of taking the drives and doing SOMETHING with them, so I&#8217;m wondering why you didn&#8217;t the first time you had a chance. Or even on your second or third pass as this story definitely shows that this abandoned bag had your attention. At the least, you could have grabbed a photo of them with your cell and if you really wanted the drives without having to touch them, just grab the bag or get another bag to put this one in and deal with the hygiene aspect later.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Garry though, I wouldn&#8217;t have done anything. In fact, I probably never would have looked in the bag.</p>
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		<title>By: DUI attorney</title>
		<link>http://www.mckeay.net/2009/07/11/you-lick-it-you-keep-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4872</link>
		<dc:creator>DUI attorney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have called the police, reported the drives and the saliva spreader, and recorded my call to play for my friends later because no one would believe me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have called the police, reported the drives and the saliva spreader, and recorded my call to play for my friends later because no one would believe me.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me a lot of the Honey Stick Project (http://www.honeystickproject.com/) except it was external drives instead of thumb drives.  My reaction?  Even without licking I think I&#039;d have tried to return them (as you did) or leave them...no telling where they&#039;ve been or what&#039;s on them.  Like mom said...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me a lot of the Honey Stick Project (<a href="http://www.honeystickproject.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.honeystickproject.com/</a>) except it was external drives instead of thumb drives.  My reaction?  Even without licking I think I&#8217;d have tried to return them (as you did) or leave them&#8230;no telling where they&#8217;ve been or what&#8217;s on them.  Like mom said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have definitely (even after the licking... have alcohol wipes for that) taken them home and at least seen what data was on them... and as posted above; 

if dangerous/bad - contact the authorities, 
if sensitive and/or identifiable - contact the company, 
if sensitive and non-identifiable - contact datalossdb.

...and I would also start carrying more alcohol wipes and start wiping anything before I touch it in the neighborhood... door knobs, parking meters, walk buttons... no telling what else that guy has been licking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have definitely (even after the licking&#8230; have alcohol wipes for that) taken them home and at least seen what data was on them&#8230; and as posted above; </p>
<p>if dangerous/bad &#8211; contact the authorities,<br />
if sensitive and/or identifiable &#8211; contact the company,<br />
if sensitive and non-identifiable &#8211; contact datalossdb.</p>
<p>&#8230;and I would also start carrying more alcohol wipes and start wiping anything before I touch it in the neighborhood&#8230; door knobs, parking meters, walk buttons&#8230; no telling what else that guy has been licking.</p>
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		<title>By: Garry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would I have done?

The same thing I&#039;d have done if the bag contained a soccer ball or an oscilloscope or potted geraniums.

Nada. Zilch. Nothing.

That&#039;s how I normally respond to someone&#039;s random junk sitting unattended in some random public place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would I have done?</p>
<p>The same thing I&#8217;d have done if the bag contained a soccer ball or an oscilloscope or potted geraniums.</p>
<p>Nada. Zilch. Nothing.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how I normally respond to someone&#8217;s random junk sitting unattended in some random public place.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost stopped when I passed them by a third time two hours later.  I was in traffic headed away from the bag and decided it wasn&#039;t worth turning around.  Glad I didn&#039;t, I had too many other things to do this weekend.

I couldn&#039;t make up a dilemma better suited to security professional&#039;s attention.  I probably would have been more suspicious if it had been three USB sticks, since they&#039;re so much cheaper to leave lying around.  But three external hard drives still cost too much to leave sitting around on the off hand chance of someone with the technical skills will wander by and pick them up.  I would have spun them up on an Ubuntu system I&#039;m in the process of rebuilding, just in case.

There was no one willing to take them in the nearby business and I had no idea where the nearest police presence was, so leaving the drives where they were was probably my best choice.  If they&#039;re still there next time I go back, I&#039;ll pick them up.  Most likely the garbage crew tossed &#039;em already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost stopped when I passed them by a third time two hours later.  I was in traffic headed away from the bag and decided it wasn&#8217;t worth turning around.  Glad I didn&#8217;t, I had too many other things to do this weekend.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t make up a dilemma better suited to security professional&#8217;s attention.  I probably would have been more suspicious if it had been three USB sticks, since they&#8217;re so much cheaper to leave lying around.  But three external hard drives still cost too much to leave sitting around on the off hand chance of someone with the technical skills will wander by and pick them up.  I would have spun them up on an Ubuntu system I&#8217;m in the process of rebuilding, just in case.</p>
<p>There was no one willing to take them in the nearby business and I had no idea where the nearest police presence was, so leaving the drives where they were was probably my best choice.  If they&#8217;re still there next time I go back, I&#8217;ll pick them up.  Most likely the garbage crew tossed &#8216;em already.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Baranov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Baranov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.. what a story.. sounds like something J.J. Abrams would come up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.. what a story.. sounds like something J.J. Abrams would come up with.</p>
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